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Author David Kirp Discusses Pre-K Movement with Richard Whitmire

Whatever the issue, advocates can benefit from listening to the perspective of independent observers who have carefully studied their work. In the case of the pre-kindergarten movement, one of those observers is David Kirp, author of The Sandbox Investment: The Preschool Movement and Kids-First Politics. In September 2007, Pre-K Now and The Pew Charitable Trusts invited Kirp to discuss his book and the pre-k movement at a public forum. USA Today editorial writer Richard Whitmire, an experienced education reporter, guided the discussion.

Whitmire and audience members posed 16 questions in all. Below you can watch video of Kirp's responses to each on topics including: nightmares for the movement; targeted pre-k vs. pre-k for all; raising teacher quality; and much more.

Question 1
Richard Whitmire asks:
There's so much going right in the pre-k movement. What could go wrong? What would be the nightmare?

Question 2
Richard Whitmire asks:
The Chicago Child-Parent Centers seem like they could be a blueprint for other state or national pre-k programs, but that program has gone into decline recently. Might that be another nightmare: lacking the will to sustain high quality in the long-run?

Question 3
Richard Whitmire asks:
Are you worried that some pre-k supporters – including some policymakers – will oversell the benefits of high-quality pre-k?

Question 4
Richard Whitmire asks:
In your book, you are critical of some pre-k programs for placing too much emphasis on early literacy, math, and science skills and not enough of developmental skills like critical thinking and problem-solving. You also say you admire the program headed by Susan Landry in Texas. Does Landry's program, in your opinion, strike the right balance between school-readiness skills and developmental skills?

Question 5
Richard Whitmire asks:
A lively debate is taking place about whether publicly-funded pre-k programs should be targeted to certain children or open to all children. What do you think?

Question 6
Richard Whitmire asks:
What do you think of what's happening in states like Virginia, where the governor recently scaled back his pre-k proposal from a "for all" program to a more targeted program?

Question 7
Richard Whitmire asks:
Building pre-k programs that are open to all children could be even more challenging if we aim to put a pre-k teacher with a bachelor's degree in every classroom. How important do you think bachelor's degrees and teacher training are to program quality? And what are the trade-offs if policymakers spend resources to increase access to pre-k rather than to raise the quality of the teacher workforce?

Question 8
Richard Whitmire asks:
Throughout our education system, students are being asked to master skills earlier, and skill-and-drill curricula are becoming more prevalent. Why shouldn't this trend extend into pre-k as well?

Question 9
Richard Whitmire asks:
Is there any danger in starting children in a school environment at an earlier age?

Question 10
An audience member asks:
Assume that a governor has a number of advocates, including pre-k advocates, coming forward with different education proposals for young children. What advice would you give advocates like me?

Question 11
An audience member asks:
What do you think is the next issue that we can make progress on with the momentum generated by pre-k?

Question 12
An audience member asks:
How do we sustain quality programs and the movement's momentum as supportive governors and legislators leave office and new ones enter office?

Question 13
An audience member asks:
How do you counter or influence decision-makers who may want to swing pre-k programs to a skill-and-drill extreme or an opposite extreme?

Question 14
Richard Whitmire asks:
You say that you don't want to end up with a No Preschooler Left Behind program. But, given policymakers continued focus on literacy and math skills, do you really want to take on this fight and oppose a No Child Left Behind's skill-and-drill approach in publicly-funded pre-k?

Question 15
An audience member asks:
In researching your book, what did you differences did you notice between pre-k programs that have more or less parent involvement?

Question 16
An audience member asks:
What do you take away from the investigation you did in writing your book that makes you hopeful?

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